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Febrile #124: Fulfilling an Unmet Need – Live from IDWeek 2025!

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Summary

We are back and live from IDWeek 2025! Drs. Camille Kotton and Roy Chemaly join Febrile to discuss refractory HSV infection in immunocompromised patients! This episode was recorded at an IDWeek 2025 affiliated event in Atlanta, GA on October 20, 2025.

Table of Contents

Credits

Host: Sara Dong

Guests: Camille Kotton, Roy Chemaly

Writing: Sara Dong (with clinical case from literature, cited below)

Edited and Produced by Sara Dong

Our Guests

Camille Kotton, MD

Camille Nelson Kotton MD, FIDSA, FAST is the clinical director of the Transplant Infectious Disease and Immunocompromised Host Program at the Massachusetts General Hospital, and Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts. She was chair of The Infectious Disease Community of Practice of The American Society of Transplantation (2012-2018). From 2007-2013, she was the president of The Transplant Infectious Disease Section of The Transplantation Society. Highlights of her time as president include the development of international guidelines on CMV management after solid organ transplant, published in Transplantation (2010, 2013, 2018). She is the first transplant infectious disease specialist to be a councilor of The Transplantation Society (2020). Her clinical interests include cytomegalovirus, donor-derived infections, zoonoses, and travel and tropical medicine in the transplant setting. She is a voting member of the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and is involved in national decisions regarding COVID-19 and other vaccines.

Roy Chemaly, MD

Dr Roy Chemaly is the G. P. Bodey, Sr Distinguished Professor in Infectious Diseases and the newly appointed Chairman of the Department of Infectious Diseases, Infection Control, & Employee Health at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas. Dr. Chemaly completed his training in infectious diseases and medical microbiology at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Cleveland, Ohio. During his fellowship, Dr. Chemaly completed a master’s degree in public health from Northeastern Ohio Universities in Rootstown, Ohio. Other leadership appointments include the positions of vice-chair and past chair of the Infection Control Committee, the past chair of the Quality and Safety Council of the Division of Internal Medicine, and the past Chief Infection Control Officer at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, Texas.

Dr Chemaly devoted his career studying viral infections in immunocompromised patients, specifically those undergoing hematopoietic cell transplantation (HCT) for hematologic malignancies. He published extensively on mechanisms to treat and prevent viral infections in this population. He contributed in writing and updating the practice guidelines for respiratory viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, in leukemia and HCT and Cellular Therapy patients for three major professional societies; the American Society of Transplantation and Cellular Therapy (ASTCT), the European Society for Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases (ESCMID), and the European Congress for Infectious Complications in Leukemia-8 (ECIL-8). Dr. Chemaly’s work has been reported in numerous high-impact peer-reviewed journals including the New England Journal of Medicine, Blood, Journal of Infectious Diseases, Clinical Microbiology and Infection, and Clinical Infectious Diseases.

Furthermore, Dr Chemaly is very well known on the national and international stages as an expert in clinical and translational virology in immunocompromised hosts. He is the co-chair of the Infection & Immune Reconstitution Working Committee of the ASTCT/CIBMTR, a member of the steering committee for the Transplant Associated Viral Infections (TAVI) that includes representation from the FDA, EMA, experts from national and international academic centers, and industry, the elected Vice-President of the International Immunocompromised Host Society (ICHS), and the chair for the working group on respiratory viruses (ESGREV) of the ESCMID. In addition, he is one of the founding members and past chair of the Transplant Infectious Diseases Special Interest Group of the ASTCT. He received numerous awards in 2022-2023 including the President’s Recognition of Faculty Excellence in Prevention Outreach, the Samuel J. Hassenbusch, M.D., Ph.D. Leadership and Institutional Service Award, the Gerald P. Bodey, Sr., Distinguished Professorship Award, all from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, and finally the UT Healthcare COVID-19 Hero from the UT System Chancellor’s Council Executive Committee, Austin, Texas.

Culture

Camille shared the joy of traveling to visit and hear about the culture of different transplant programs around the world

Roy love the serenity of the first morning coffee to start the day

Consult Notes

We are back and live from IDWeek 2025!

Drs. Camille Kotton and Roy Chemaly join Febrile to discuss refractory Herpes Simplex Virus (HSV) infection in immunocompromised patients! This episode was recorded at an IDWeek 2025 affiliated event in Atlanta, GA on October 20, 2025.

You’ll find example cases and associated images referenced here:

What is refractory/resistant HSV?

Mechanisms of antiviral resistance

  • Acyclovir and valacyclovir are the primary drugs of choice for treatment and prevention of HSV infections in immunocompromised patients
  • The antiviral activity depends on initial phosphorylation by a virus-encoded thymidine kinase (TK, encoded by UL23 gene) —> cellular kinases further phosphorylate the monophosphate to the active triphosphate form —> the active nucleotide analog is incorporated into the growing DNA strand by viral DNA polymerase (encoded by UL30) and prompts chain termination
  • The primary mechanism of HSV-1/2 resistance is acquisition of mutation in the viral TK (95% of cases), resulting in absent or deficient viral TK, or a change in TK substrate specificity
  • Here is a excellent figure summarizing the antiviral mechanisms:

Camille discussed the importance of making the diagnosis of refractory disease and then sending resistance testing. This testing can take several weeks to return though, so we still have to consider how to manage refractory disease prior to those results

Risk factors

Risk factors for refractory/resistant HSV infections in immunocompromised patients:

Roy and Camille discussed a proposed approach to the management of refractory and/or resistant HSV infection

Check out the algorithm below:

Goal

Listeners will be able to describe the epidemiology and management of refractory/resistant HSV infection in immunocompromised patients

Learning Objectives

After listening to this episode, listeners will be able to:

  • Define and describe the epidemiology of refractory and/or resistant HSV in immunocompromised patients
  • Describe the risk factors and outcomes associated with resistant/refractory HSV in immunocompromised patients
  • Describe current treatment options for resistant/refractory HSV including their efficacy and safety/toxicity and why new treatments are needed

Disclosures

This episode was recorded at an IDWeek 2025 affiliated event in Atlanta, GA on October 20, 2025. Drs. Camille Kotton, Roy Chemaly, and Sara Dong were sponsored speakers by Aicuris Anti-infective Cures AG for this event, however this Febrile content was planned, produced, and reviewed solely by Febrile.

Citation

Kotton, C., Chemaly, R., Dong, S. “#124: Fulfilling an Unmet Need – Live from IDWeek 2025!”. Febrile: A Cultured Podcast. https://player.captivate.fm/episode/3383321f-ec92-4706-aa08-cbd9d3f1003e/

Transcript (including video with images/slides)

https://share.descript.com/view/tgN71ivppZe
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