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Febrile #67 – Brain Training

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Summary

Have fun wrapping your head around this episode on meningitis and tips on how to approach the case as a clinical teacher. Featuring a team from Emory University including medical student Katie Sharma, Dr. Amalia Aldredge, and Dr. Varun Phadke.

Table of Contents

Credits

Hosts: Katie Sharma, Sara Dong

Guests: Amalia Aldredge, Varun Phadke

Writing: Katie Sharma, Amalia Aldredge, Varun Phadke, Sara Dong

Producing/Editing/Cover Art: Sara Dong

Infographics: Sara Dong

Our Guests

Guest Co-Host

Katie Sharma, MD

Dr. Katie Sharma is a fourth-year medical student at Emory University School of Medicine, who recently matched at Emory for internal medicine residency. She graduated from Georgia Tech in 2010 with a business degree and began a career in healthcare consulting and analytics, eventually pivoting to pursue medicine. Katie’s interest in infectious diseases was initially piqued by the fantastic ID medical educators at Emory (::cough cough:: Dr. Phadke) who gave lectures on various ID topics during her pre-clinical years. When she is not at the hospital, she is with her husband, Abhi, chasing around their three- year-old son, Grady.

Guest Discussant

Amalia Aldredge, MD

Dr. Amalia Aldredge is originally from Seattle, but moved to Atlanta for IM residency at Emory and stayed there for additional training, where she is currently a second-year Infectious Diseases fellow. She is interested in disparities in HIV care, HIV prevention including novel ways to deliver care, and medical education.  In her free time, she loves hiking with her dog, baking (current favorites are the brown butter sage sablés from Dessert Person), and binge-reading novels.

Guest Discussant

Varun Phadke, MD

Dr. Varun Phadke, who you might remember from episode #26 on culture negative endocarditis. Varun earned his MD degree from Harvard Medical School and completed his residency training at New York-Presbyterian Hospital / Columbia University Medical Center.  He then moved to Atlanta for his ID fellowship training and has been on Emory faculty since that time.  He serves as the Associate Program Director for the ID fellowship program, a core faculty member for the IM residency program, and is the Assistant Vice Chair of Education for Clinical Reasoning. He previously completed a fellowship in diagnostic excellence through the Society to Improve Diagnosis in Medicine and is passionate about teaching clinical reasoning. I will also point out that he was the IDSA Medical Education Community of Practice Featured Educator for 2/1/23

Culture

Katie mentioned Ikebana, Japanese flower arranging

Amalia shared some of her adventures in beekeeping

Varun shared a podcast called The Moth and the book How to Tell a Story

Consult Notes

Consult Q

55-year-old man presents with fever and altered mental status

Case Summary

55 year old male with HTN and DM who presents with acute change in mental status and is found to have Strep pneumoniae meningitis

Key Points

This episode was a bit unique because one of our discussants also used the teaching portion of the case to point out:

  • How to ask good questions
  • How to probe (and correct/refine) clinical reasoning in real-time
  • How to foster progressive problem solving

Amalia gave a great differential diagnosis considering a patient who presented with altered mental status. These Consult Notes will focus on several of the learning points regarding CSF interpretation and bacterial meningitis. Let’s start by discussing clinical features of bacterial meningitis

The initial approach when you suspect bacterial meningitis includes obtaining a lumbar puncture (LP). CSF testing should be sent for:

  • Cell count and differential
  • Protein
  • Glucose
  • Bacterial culture and Gram stain
  • Other tests as appropriate, such as:
    • CSF HSV PCR
    • In certain patients, may send special tests such as CSF CrAg or fungal/AFB cultures
    • Multiplex PCR like BioFire meningitis/encephalitis panel (if available)
    • Sending/saving an extra tube of CSF for additional studies are helpful in case the clinical course warrants additional testing

 

As discussed on the episode, you can have challenges with multiplex PCR panels

  • False negatives ~1.5%
      • If you suspect a particular pathogen and it is available, use a singleplex PCR.  Other tests may be necessary for specific pathogens (such as cryptococcal antigen)
      • Overall decent negative predictive value
  • False positives ~4%
      • You risk learning about a positive that is clinically insignificant in your patient (such as HHV6)
      • S.pneumoniae is the most common false positive pathogen

Interpreting CSF profiles!

  • Characteristic findings in bacterial meningitis:
    • CSF WBC count >1000, usually with neutrophilic predominance
    • CSF glucose concentration <40 mg/dL
    • CSF protein concentration >200 mg/dL
  • We’ll have an infographic comparing/contrasting the typical CSF findings in various CNS infections

What sequence of testing and treatment should be recommended? Which patients should have head CT before LP? When should antibiotics +/- steroids be given?

What empiric antibiotics should be selected for suspected bacterial meningitis? What is the typical microbiology of bacterial meningitis?

How do antibiotics alter the CSF profile and culture? A common question for ID consultants: is an LP really still helpful if they have already received antibiotics?

When do you administer steroids in suspected bacterial meningitis?

Goal

Listeners will be able to understand the initial management of suspected bacterial meningitis.

Learning Objectives

After listening to this episode, listeners will be able to:

  • Discuss the initial testing recommendations for CSF analysis in a patient with suspected meningitis
  • Formulate an empiric antibiotic regimen for a patient with suspected bacterial meningitis
  • Describe strategies of a clinical teacher that will probe and refine clinical reasoning discussions on ID rounds

Disclosures

Our guests (Katie Sharma, Amalia Aldredge, Varun Phadke) as well as Febrile podcast and hosts report no relevant financial disclosures

Citation

Aldredge, A., Phadke, V., Sharma, K., Dong, S. “#67: Brain Training”. Febrile: A Cultured Podcast. https://player.captivate.fm/episode/dd1d75e9-a8e3-445f-80ff-459cd38702e4

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