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Febrile #63 – HAI School: A Febrile Bundle on Healthcare-Associated Infections #4 – VAP, Crackle, Pop!

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Summary

Welcome to HAI School – A Febrile Bundle on Healthcare-Associated Infections! Join Drs. Sam Schuiteman and Owen Albin for episode #4, which will cover ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP). Don’t miss the prior episodes on CLABSI, CAUTI, and SSI. The series runs from episodes 60-63!

Table of Contents

Credits

Hosts: Sam Schuiteman, Sara Dong

Guest: Owen Albin

Writing: Sam Schuiteman, Sara Dong

Producing/Editing/Cover Art/Infographics: Sara Dong

Our Guests

Guest Co-Host 

Sam Schuiteman, MD

Dr. Sam Schuiteman is a PGY-2 resident in Internal Medicine at the University of Michigan, where he also completed medical school.

Guest Discussant

Owen Albin, MD

Dr. Owen Albin is an Assistant Professor of Internal Medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor, MI.  He also completed his medical school, residency, and ID fellowship training at the University of Michigan

Culture

Sam shared that he has been cooking a lot with Alison Roman recipes, such as shrimp scampi!  Check out some recipes here


Owen shared Kenji Alt-Lopez’s The Wok Book as well as the children’s book Every Night is Pizza Night!

Consult Notes

Consult Q

diagnosis and management of VAP

Key Points

The HAI School Series! HAI = Healthcare Acquired Infections

This episode is #4 of 4 in another Febrile series, this time entitled “HAI School”!  This bundle of episodes will discuss some healthcare associated infections (CLABSI, CAUTI, SSI, and VAP).  Check out all four episodes (#60-63) to hear them all!  The first three are from a team from Beaumont Health, and the fourth episodes features a team from the University of Michigan

Let’s start with the basics! What is ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP)? How common is it?

  • VAP is a type of hospital acquired pneumonia that develops in patients who have been intubated for >=48 hrs or within 48 hrs of extubation
  • VAP prevalence in patients who require invasive mechanical ventilation >48 hrs is generally about 5-20%
      • There are patients who are at higher risk (such as ARDS, ECMO, COPD, trauma, intracranial bleeds), who might have prevalence closer to 30-40%
  • To check on the latest data, you can access some info at the CDC website, such as:

What are the risk factors for VAP?

Owen grouped the risk factors for VAP into three buckets:

    • Duration of mechanical ventilation! The risk rises with each day of intubation, peaking around day 5
    • Aspiration risk: reintubation, impaired consciousness, supine positioning
    • Colonization in the gut or oropharynx: H2 blockers, prior antibiotic use

What is the pathophysiology of VAP?

 

What are some of the challenges of diagnosing VAP?

So how do we diagnose VAP?

So we established the challenges of diagnosing VAP – so what can we consider to prevent overdiagnosis? Here are Owen’s four diagnostic stewardship tricks (life hacks) to help practice VAP antimicrobial stewardship.

VAP does not resolve in <24 hrs

  • Clinical decompensations that rapidly improve or normalize in 24h aren’t pneumonia and shouldn’t be treated. Pneumonia is one of the only infections we don’t have source control for, and therefore shouldn’t resolve rapidly.
  • These respiratory decompensations might be related to aspiration pneumonitis, mucous plugging, pulmonary edema, or other factors

Don’t “pan-culture” for fever and leukocytosis

Not all increased secretions are purulent. Talk to the ICU nurses and respiratory therapists about the secretions!

  • Causes of nonpurulent/increased secretions include:
    • Return of cough + mucociliary clearance
    • Pulmonary edema
    • Changes in vent circuit humidification
    • Diuresis

Respiratory cultures tell you how to treat VAP, not whether to treat VAP

  • Respiratory cultures are not binary – use additional information from the culture such as the degree of WBC on gram stain
  • A negative Gram stain has an exquisite negative predictive value for VAP that approaches 95%

What is generally the best approach to obtaining a respiratory culture?

  • Owen discussed invasive vs non-invasive sampling.  The European and International guidelines recommend BAL, but the American guidelines say the opposite and do not preference distal lung sampling (suggesting a proximal lung sample like endotracheal aspirate is sufficient)
  • There are some prospective trials comparing invasive vs noninvasive lung sampling, and there was no clear benefit of one way vs the other on clinical outcomes like mortality or vent dependence
  • Owen explained that he does prefer a BAL if possible and patient does not have contraindication (such as severe hypoxemia, predisposition to bleeding, new anastomotic site, etc) – particularly since a nonbronchoscoicy BAL (mini-BAL) can be done

Management of VAP

  • Is there a role for inhaled antibiotics?
      • Inhaled antibiotics are attractive because of a really large therapeutic window: would be delivering huge doses into alveolar space with relatively little systemic absorption (although can get some systemic absorption)
      • But it’s likely that these inhaled antibiotics in pneumonia patients with significant amounts of pus in the lung, don’t get to the places they need to
      • There is retrospective data and a meta-analysis that suggests inhaled antibiotics may be beneficial for folks with MDR or XDR Gram negative pathogens but don’t seem beneficial in most clinical trials
      • So Owen does not encourage routine use but says he might consider if there is a severe pneumonia with recurrent infection and few antibiotics options

Goal

Listeners will be able to diagnose and treat ventilator-associated pneumonia

Learning Objectives

After listening to this episode, listeners will be able to:

  • Describe the epidemiology and risk factors for ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP)
  • Summarize the approach to diagnosis of VAP and its challenges
  • Discuss treatment of VAP, including duration of therapy

Disclosures

Our guests (Sam Schuiteman and Owen Albin) as well as Febrile podcast and hosts report no relevant financial disclosures

Citation

Albin, O., Schuiteman, S., Dong, S. “#63: HAI School: A Febrile Bundle on Healthcare-Associated Infections #4 – VAP, Crackle, Pop!”. Febrile: A Cultured Podcast. https://player.captivate.fm/episode/21609f65-00a8-4a70-9546-8726b7695cbd

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